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    Delete The Zero's

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    You will have to follow this link, I can not copy! This is a very important article and for the first time explains what deleting the zero's will actually mean to the currency. I am interested to hear your feelings about this article and what you think it means

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    hit the word translating when it appears. This will enable the link!

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    And this is supposed to clear things up???

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    just what I thot all along!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcglone View Post
    And this is supposed to clear things up???
    Well put it this way they have never been so clear as to the meaning of deleting the zero's

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    D. Ahmed Ali Abrihi
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    أعلنت وسائل الإعلام يوم السبت 5/12/2010 أن العراقية. Media announced on Saturday, 12.05.2010 that the Board of Deputies discussed the possibility of deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency. It seems appropriate to restate some of the basics may be that the benefit to avoid exaggerations and false impressions.

    . The most positive element in this regard that the general society and private business owners and the money they dealt with the issue calmly and if it does not concern them, in practice, a position the right one. يولا. Because the deletion of zeros, by itself, does not achieve gains or losses ranks, which means not only changing the unit of measure is not the same thing.
    إن 2000 . The 2000 meters is nothing more nor less than 2 km, the distance is the same but the unit of measurement in the second reading is the biggest. وان 1000 كغم ليست أكثر من 1 طن ولا اقل من 1000000 غرام، بل اختلفت وحدة قياس الوزن. 1000 kg and not more than 1 ton, no less than 1000000 g, but different unit of measurement of weight. هو العدد المعبر عنها. And also after deletion of zeros does not become a mass of less liquidity and greater and that changes is the number expressمثل الدينار والدولار والين ... The currency is also based on its own to a unit of measurement is a unit basis, which take her name, such as the dinar and the dollar and the yen ... وهكذا. And so on.
    . And that the currency's strength does not depend on the relative size of the basic unity. . Because the fact of force independent of the unit measured, in general, as well as in the currency. . Consider the examples of the exchange rate selected with a view to clarification, and the exchange rate, in the following, expressed in units of national currency in exchange for one dollar.
    ومن البيان آنفا نجد أن الدولار يساوي 5.79 جنيه مصري بينما يساوي 8992.5 ريال اندونيسي. And in the statement above, we find that the dollar is equal to 5.79 Egyptian pounds equal to 8992.5 while the Real Indonesia. الاندونيسية لان الريال الاندونيسي يساوي جزءا صغيرا من السنت (واحد من تسعين) في حين يساوي الجنيه المصري 17 سنتا. This does not mean that the Egyptian currency is stronger than the Indonesian currency, because the riyal is equal to the Indonesian small part of a cent (one out of ninety) while the Egyptian pound is equal to 17 cents. وكذلك الريال السعودي حوالي 27 سنتا، في حين ان الدينار الكويتي 357 سنتا، ولا يفهم منه ان العملة السعودية اضعف من العملة الكويتية. As well as the Saudi riyal, about 27 cents, while the Kuwaiti dinar 357 cents, and does not understand him to Saudi currency weaker than the Kuwaiti currency. وكذلك يقال عند مقارنة عملة كوريا الجنوبية التي وحدتها الاساسية صغيرة القيمة أيضا مع العملة اليابانية. The same may be said when comparing the currency in South Korea and basic small unit value also with the Japanese currency.
    فالربط بين قوة العملة وقيمة وحدتها الأساسية هو انطباع خاطئ سرعان ما يصحح بالانتباه والملاحظة. The linkage between the currency's strength and value of the basic unit is the wrong impression was soon corrected attention and observation. ومن المفروض أن عقلاء الناس لا يحاولون ولا يتوقعون تحقيق مكاسب، أيا كان نوعها ، استنادا إلى هذا الوهم إن وجد. It is supposed that rational people are not trying and do not expect gains of any kind, based on this illusion, if any.
    وقد تردد كثيرا أن حذف الأصفار يقلل من كمية الورق وهذا الفهم يعتمد على خطأ حسابي واضح. ونبين ذلك بسؤال بسيط كم هو اقل عدد من الأوراق تحتاج لدفع مبلغ مليون دينار؟ It has been rumored frequently that the deletion of zeros reduces the amount of paper and this understanding is based on an arithmetic error is clear. And show that a simple question: How much is the lowest number of papers you need to pay one million dinars? الجواب: عندما تختار اكبر فئة من العملة وهي 25 ألفا فان 40 ورقة منها تؤدي الغرض. Answer: When you choose the largest category of the currency of 25 alpha, 40-sheet of which serve the purpose. ولو فرضنا أن الأصفار حذفت فسوف يصبح المليون ألفا بالوحدات الجديدة ولان فئة العملة آنفة الذكر تحذف أصفارها، ايضا، تصبح 25 فقط، وعند قسمة 1000 على 25 يظهر ان العدد المطلوب من الاوراق هو 40 كما كان الوضع قبل حذف الأصفار لا أكثر ولا اقل. Even if we assume that the zeros were deleted will be a million thousand units of new and because the coin of the above deleted digit, too, becomes only 25, when the apportionment of 1000 on 25 shows that the required number of papers is 40 as was the situation prior to the deletion of zeros, nothing more, nothing less.
    ان حذف الاصفار بذاته لا يقلل كمية الورق. That the deletion of zeros in itself does not reduce the amount of paper. بل تعتمد كمية الورق على فئات العملة فلو استحدثت الآن فئة اكبر بمبلغ 50 ألف دينار تحتاج 20 ورقة لدفع مبلغ مليون دينار وإذا استحدثت فئة 100 ألف دينار تكفي 10 أوراق لتسديد المبلغ. They are dependent on the amount of paper currency if categories have been developed far the largest category at $ 50 thousand dinars, you need 20 sheets to pay one million dinars, and if introduced 100 bills 10 thousand dinars, enough papers to pay the amount. والشيء نفسه يقال عند حذف الأصفار إذا ما أضيفت فئات جديدة 50 و 100 من العملة الجديدة. The same is said when you delete the zeros are added if new categories 50 and 100 of the new currency.
    ان تبديل العملة بين تشرين الاول 2003 وكانون الثاني 2004 يختلف جذريا عن المقترح المتداول حاليا. Changing the currency between October 2003 and January 2004 differs radically from the proposed rolling now. في المرة السابقة لم يتغير نظام العملة، الدينار هو الدينار، والذي حصل استبدال الطبعة القديمة بطبعة جديدة. In a previous system did not change the currency, the dinar is the dinar, which got replaced the old edition of a new edition. ولذلك يمكن مقارنة كمية الورق المطلوب لدفع مبلغ المليون دينار أواخر التسعينيات مع ما أصبح الوضع عليه الآن. It can therefore be compared to the amount of paper required to pay one million dinars in late nineties with what the situation is now. عندما كانت اكبر فئة 1000 دينار تحتاج 1000 ورقة لدفع المليون و 4000 ورقة عندما كانت الفئة الأكبر 250 دينارا. When was the biggest category of 1000 dinars 1000 paper you need to pay one million and 4000 when the paper was the largest category 250 dinars. ولذلك كانت كميات الورق المستخدمة في التداول ضخمة ، وهذا لا علاقة له بقيمة العملة بل فئاتها. Therefore, the amount of paper used in the large circulation, and this has nothing to do but the currency's value categories. ولكن الناس لا يلاحظون دائما اثر الفئة المستخدمة من العملة وانك عندما تنتقل من فئة 250 دينارا الى25000 تختصر كميـة الورق بنسبة واحد إلى مئة. But people do not always notice after the category used currency and when you move from the category of 250 dinars to 25000 shorten the amount of paper by one to a hundred.
    صحيح أن سعر صرف الدينار قد تحسن إذ كان الدولار في اواخر عام 2000 يساوي 2000 دينار والآن 1170 ولكن الكمية من الخضراوات واللحوم ، لكن كمية الورق المستخدمة اقل وهذا بسبب فئات العملة الكبيرة . It is true that the dinar exchange rate has improved since the dollar in late 2000 is equal to 2000 dinars and now in 1170, but apart from a few imported goods need to be exaggerated JD largest for the purchase of the land itself, or the quantity of vegetables and meat, but the amount of paper used less This is because the denominations large. كل تلك الامثلة البسيطة والاستطراد من اجل عزل اثر الفئة عن قوة العملة ووحدة أساسها. All of these simple examples and digressions in order to isolate the impact of the category for the currency's strength and unity based. وعادة كلما كانت وحدة العملة الأساسية صغيرة استخدمـت فئات اكبر. And usually the more basic unit of currency used small groups more. وفئـات العملة العراقية الحالية مناسبة إلى حد كبير. And categories of the Iraqi currency current is appropriate to a large extent.
    في كوريا الجنوبية وحيث وحدة عملتها مقاربة لوحدة العملة العراقية في القيمة اكتفت بفئة خمسة آلاف إلى وقت قريب وعند نهاية عام 2009 أضيفت فئة عشرة آلاف. In South Korea, where the unit currency approach to the unity of the Iraqi currency value in the category of merely five thousand to soon and at the end of 2009 added a ten thousand.
    ويقال أيضا إن حذف الأصفار يجعل الأعداد التي تكتب بها المبالغ أكثر اختصارا وهذا أيضا غير صحيح. It is also said that the deletion of zeros makes the numbers that are written by the amounts more concise and this is also incorrect. الآن تقول 10400 عشرة ألاف واربعمائة دينار، وبعد حذف الأصفار تقرأ عشرة دنانير واربعمائة فلس. Now it says 10 400 ten thousand, four hundred dinars, and after deletion of zeros read four hundred ten dinars and fils. وذلك لان الوحدة الجديدة (الدينار الجديد) كبيرة هي 1000 مرة بقدر الوحدة الموجودة الآن ولابد من التعامل مع أجزائها. This is because the new unit (new dinar) is a large 1000 times as much as the unit now in place and must be dealt with parts.
    أي مع النظام المقترح سوف نتعامل مع أجزاء الدينار الجديد في الحسابات وفي المعاملات اليومية، وسوف لن تكون المعالجات الحسابية ابسط مما هي عليه الآن بل هو مجرد وهم. With any of the proposed system will deal with parts of the new dinar in the accounts and daily transactions, and will not be the simplest arithmetic processors than it is now, but is merely an illusion.
    وبقي أن نشير إلى أن حذف الأصفار يحتاج إلى تشريع وجملة من الترتيبات للانتقال إلى النظام الجديد إضافة على التسهيلات الإدارية والتقنية لاستبدال العملة وهي ضخمة. It remains to point out that the deletion of zeros needs to be legislation and a number of arrangements for the transition to the new addition to the administrative and technical facilities to replace the currency which is huge.

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    Delete the zeros



    Date: Mon 06/12/2010 4:55


    D. Ahmed Ali Abrihi
    Iraqi Central Bank Governor
    Media announced on Saturday, 12.05.2010 that the Board of Deputies discussed the possibility of deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency. It seems appropriate to restate some of the basics may be that the benefit to avoid exaggerations and false impressions.

    The most positive element in this regard that the general society and private business owners and the money they dealt with the issue calmly and if it does not concern them, in practice, a position the right one. Because the deletion of zeros, by itself, does not achieve gains or losses ranks, which means not only changing the unit of measure is not the same thing.
    The 2000 meters is nothing more nor less than 2 km, the distance is the same but the unit of measurement in the second reading is the biggest. 1000 kg and not more than 1 ton, no less than 1000000 g, but different unit of measurement of weight. And also after deletion of zeros does not become a mass of less liquidity and greater and that changes is the number expressed. The currency is also based on its own to a unit of measurement is a unit basis, which take her name, such as the dinar and the dollar and the yen ... And so on.
    And that the currency's strength does not depend on the relative size of the basic unity. Because the fact of force independent of the unit measured, in general, as well as in the currency. Consider the examples of the exchange rate selected with a view to clarification, and the exchange rate, in the following, expressed in units of national currency in exchange for one dollar.
    And in the statement above, we find that the dollar is equal to 5.79 Egyptian pounds equal to 8992.5 while the Real Indonesia. This does not mean that the Egyptian currency is stronger than the Indonesian currency, because the riyal is equal to the Indonesian small part of a cent (one out of ninety) while the Egyptian pound is equal to 17 cents. As well as the Saudi riyal, about 27 cents, while the Kuwaiti dinar 357 cents, and does not understand him to Saudi currency weaker than the Kuwaiti currency. The same may be said when comparing the currency in South Korea and basic small unit value also with the Japanese currency.
    The linkage between the currency's strength and value of the basic unit is the wrong impression was soon corrected attention and observation. It is supposed that rational people are not trying and do not expect gains of any kind, based on this illusion, if any.
    It has been rumored frequently that the deletion of zeros reduces the amount of paper and this understanding is based on an arithmetic error is clear. And show that a simple question: How much is the lowest number of papers you need to pay one million dinars? Answer: When you choose the largest category of the currency of 25 alpha, 40-sheet of which serve the purpose. Even if we assume that the zeros were deleted will be a million thousand units of new and because the coin of the above deleted digit, too, becomes only 25, when the apportionment of 1000 on 25 shows that the required number of papers is 40 as was the situation prior to the deletion of zeros, nothing more, nothing less.
    That the deletion of zeros in itself does not reduce the amount of paper. They are dependent on the amount of paper currency if categories have been developed far the largest category at $ 50 thousand dinars, you need 20 sheets to pay one million dinars, and if introduced 100 bills 10 thousand dinars, enough papers to pay the amount. The same is said when you delete the zeros are added if new categories 50 and 100 of the new currency.
    Changing the currency between October 2003 and January 2004 differs radically from the proposed rolling now. In a previous system did not change the currency, the dinar is the dinar, which got replaced the old edition of a new edition. It can therefore be compared to the amount of paper required to pay one million dinars in late nineties with what the situation is now. When was the biggest category of 1000 dinars 1000 paper you need to pay one million and 4000 when the paper was the largest category 250 dinars. Therefore, the amount of paper used in the large circulation, and this has nothing to do but the currency's value categories. But people do not always notice after the category used currency and when you move from the category of 250 dinars to 25000 shorten the amount of paper by one to a hundred.
    It is true that the dinar exchange rate has improved since the dollar in late 2000 is equal to 2000 dinars and now in 1170, but apart from a few imported goods need to be exaggerated JD largest for the purchase of the land itself, or the quantity of vegetables and meat, but the amount of paper used less This is because the denominations large. All of these simple examples and digressions in order to isolate the impact of the category for the currency's strength and unity based. And usually the more basic unit of currency used small groups more. And categories of the Iraqi currency current is appropriate to a large extent.
    In South Korea, where the unit currency approach to the unity of the Iraqi currency value in the category of merely five thousand to soon and at the end of 2009 added a ten thousand.
    It is also said that the deletion of zeros makes the numbers that are written by the amounts more concise and this is also incorrect. Now it says 10 400 ten thousand, four hundred dinars, and after deletion of zeros read four hundred ten dinars and fils. This is because the new unit (new dinar) is a large 1000 times as much as the unit now in place and must be dealt with parts.
    With any of the proposed system will deal with parts of the new dinar in the accounts and daily transactions, and will not be the simplest arithmetic processors than it is now, but is merely an illusion.
    It remains to point out that the deletion of zeros needs to be legislation and a number of arrangements for the transition to the new addition to the administrative and technical facilities to replace the currency which is huge

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    The manner in which they are making the comparisons of numbers does seem to insinuate a lop.

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