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11-28-2012, 08:44 AM
11-27-2012 BGG The parts of Chapter 7 that are pertinent to us in this investment are already satisfied, the financial parts. The main reason that the U.N. is not letting Iraq out of Chapter 7 is because they are going to leave the "use of force" clause in there until Maliki is dealt with, period. Iraq, Maliki in particular, has danced a jig to get out of Chapter 7 because they want to overrun the Kurds, snatch up the oil rich territories without the interference of the U.N. and the U. S. and that is obviously not going to happen.There can be an RV without Chapter 7 being released. Chapter 7 will not be released without an RV. For them to get out of Chapter 7, they have to have an RV. From our group of sources, we see there are several key factors to look at: 1. talk about or possibly a National Meeting. 2. talk about the term limits law 3. talk about Maliki resigning.

11-27-2012 Blaino TOMORROW MAY BE THE FULCRUM UPON WHICH OUR FUTURE TURNS. I AM WITH MUCH KNOWLEDGE...THIS IS THE SUM OF THAT WHICH CAN BE SHARED: THOSE WHO KNOW, SAY THAT WE ARE INDEED UPON THE BRINK IN MANY WAYS, THE FOLLOWER MAY BECOME THE LEADER, THE VALUE OF THE FOLLOWER, ONCE BECOME THE LEADER IS TEN FOLD THE EXPECTED, AND OPENS THE GAME! THE LEADER IF CONVERTED TO THE FOLLOWER WILL BE RESTORED TO FORMER POSITION AND BE INCREASED IN A SMALL WAY FOR THE TIME SPENT CHAINED. THINK ON THIS AND THE UNMENTIONABLE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU. YOU ARE CLOSER THAN YOU MAY KNOW TO THE PINNACLE OF THE PROMISE. CONSIDER ALL OF THIS IN SILENCE AND GATHER YOUR STRENGTH, SUCH AS YOU CONCEIVE IT TO BE, FOCUS THAT UPON THE GOAL AND ACCEPT WHAT COMES YOUR WAY, EVEN NOW. I THINK WE WILL SEE IT VERY SOON, NOT AFTER THE 1ST OF JANUARY! THE VND HAS BEEN SITTING AT 2.08 TO THE USD OFF AND ON ALL DAY TODAY AND YESTERDAY. THAT MEANS THAT LAST WEEK YOU GOT 20,755 VND TO ONE USD. NOW YOU GET 2.08516 VND TO ONE USD OR ABOUT 48 CENTS AND CHANGE FOR EACH VND. WAY BETTER THAN IQD FOR INCREASE IN VALUE!!!

11-28-2012 Doc We have been asked by several to elaborate on why we believe the RV will not occur in the near term (end of year). Yes, we were in the camp it had a good shot at happening up until recently. Unfortunately Maliki appears to be winning the power game right now. We had hoped he would be removed so reform could move forward. Maliki is on record as stating last spring he was in favor of a weak dinar. Also Allawi has indicated it is Maliki blocking all reform. Now with Maliki winning the power struggle with the CBI it is naive to believe he will not do as he has said in the past which is to block reform and maintain a weak dinar. We speculated in the past as to why Maliki is doing what he is doing. First we have to remember this is not about us and have to think like their culture. These countries have had dictators for thousands of years. Even Iran and Egypt with say they are a democracy are controlled very much like a dictatorship. It should not surprise anyone that Maliki is attempting to do the same. History also tells us dictators control the masses by fear and keeping the people "poor" or dependent on the government (sounds like the path the USA is on). With an RV Iraq would have economic freedom of the masses which would obviously oppose Maliki's goals of total control. This is why we believe we are a ways away from the RV. The good news is that a vote of no confidence is being discussed once again so Maliki has not won the war yet. Also Maliki is being drilled for his arms deal which is positive. What is unfolding is that struggle between those that want economic freedom and those that want to continue with the old ways of Sadam. We continue to believe in the end it will happen mainly due to international pressure and support for the "good" guys. In the short term however, the GOI remains unstable and the HCl debate continues. Do not expect release from chapter 7 until the "good" verse "evil" struggle is resolved. It is a lever the international community will use to pressure Maliki. We simply see this as taking time to completely play out. We report, you decide.

11-28-2012 Hammerman I was cut off from a call out of Kuwait and was also cut off from a 4 way conference call talking about the IQD. I am being deeply monitored & it's hard to get information. Info coming out of the U.S. is very hard to get, contacts can't share news right now. UST people are quiet. I think everything is done in Iraq, everything is scripted. You can't believe articles coming out right now, there is no truth to them. Also, the CBI site is not the real official site. It is based out of Houston, Texas & is set up by the U.S. government, we do not have access to the real site. Until it revalues, I don't expect any info on the IQD. I'm pretty certain we will not see an RV until February, March or April. One source is saying mid to late February. Until the Bush tax cuts go away, we will not see the RV. Sources are saying the VND is in play. It has been showing up in different places worldwide. As of yesterday it was on Bloomberg. It was showing at about $.05 for about 10 hours yesterday, but we can't cash out as of yet. There is definite movement on the VND. China wants it to go, the whole world wants it to go. The world is tired of waiting on the IQD. If they get their way, the VND will set off the global reset.

11-28-2012 Mailman17 if [Bondlady] and her newshounds saw something in respect to the gazette, i believe her...if it wasnt there when med and the rest of us looked...thats also correct, cant see whats not there anymore. they pulled it and fast like the missing e and g articles in the budget. they listed everything but those 2. why? what was in those 2? they are in a big hurry to get things wrapped up. again, we bring back the 250 and 1000...somethings up and we know it, but like always we will do what we do best, we will wait. med and i are very encouraged by the news and articles, its crunch time. un meeting with kuwait to finalize 7 this month is also on the table and that is what hangs in front of iraq. whether its with maliki or without...they have enough to hang him, a no vote but...this very well could be lets make a deal time. either way we think the chances of this popping before the 1st of the year is great.

11-28-2012 Adam Montana There is no specific "date" that I can nail down, but I have to say....things are looking very interesting. And I mean that in a good way. I am constantly in touch with people (bankers, politicians, investors, etc) that are HEAVY hitters, and some of them are very involved in the Dinar…while I don't have anything concrete to share, I'm starting to feel a vibe... have you ever played Bingo? You know how when the ball pops up on the screen, and suddenly you hear a "buzzing" from one of the tables across the room? And you know they got BINGO... that's kind of what this feels like right now. 11-28-2012 Newshound Guru Adam Montana The date December 2 - I'm not going to commit to that date, but like I said... I feel like someone's about to shout BINGO, and a lot of others feel that way too. This thing has been going on for a LONG time, and they have made great progress...so before year end, shortly after the new year, or just "SOON" in general - I feel good about that.

11-28-2012 Fresh Article quote: "central bank adviser said the Iraqi appearance of Mohammed Saleh, said that the bank is serious implementation of the project to delete three zeros from the national currency in the near future." they are now saying in the near future instead of sooooooon or in the coming days...not saying this week or next week - but they are stepping up the "lingo"...could come together right when CH 7 is official, etc.

11-28-2012 LoriC The latest reports are that the 2013 budget will include the removal of the zeros and the introduction of the new currency. January 2013 is looking more likely as a possible target date for a revaluation.

11-28-2012 Footforward Iraq has done everything that they need to do. This is not about Iraq. The entire world is basically at at financial stand still waiting for this to happen. When will it happen? It should have happened last year. I am sick of saying this will go any time as much as you are sick of hearing it. Who is holding this up right now? Bigger financial interests that control the entire financial system that we currently have is holding it up. It is about control right now. As soon as the control is gone, we will have our RV. It's much bigger than Iraq. This can go anytime as soon as this is done. We need this and the world needs this. Still waiting for this to happen before the New Year. It can go anytime.

11-28-2012 Adam Montana Although it's easy to point at the HCL and Chapter 7 as the "reason" the RV is delayed, there are obviously smaller parts of the situation that have to be taken into consideration. In fact, Chapter 7 and the HCL and other things DEPEND on those "smaller" matters. It's never been a question of "Why isn't it done yet?", it's always been a question of "What remains to be done?" and at this time, the answer to that last question is "Very little!" don't fret over the "time" this is taking - it's a process, and steps have to be taken. Iraq is going in the RIGHT direction to raise the value of their currency, not the opposite.